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Oct 18 / Jacob

Florida’s Free Field Goal and Mystery Yard

It’s well documented that the Refs aided the Florida win over the Razorbacks yesterday.  A couple points that have been left out is the field goal that shouldn’t have counted (forced a punt) and the first down that gave the gators the chance to run the clock out on the Hogs.

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A couple plays after the no call on offensive pass interference which prevented Arkansas Taking possession with an interception / or at least moving Florida out of Field Goal Range…

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Tim Tebow ran the ball just inside the 20 yard line but was given an extra yard which gave the Gators the first down with 0:41 left in the game.

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mystery-yard2Credit for the pictures go to Pecos Hog of hogville.

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  1. roger stafford / Oct 19 2009

    On a good note on this topic, how bout our defense. That group has grown up and decided not to be the scapegoats anymore. This is not the same group that played in the Georgia and Alabama games.

    I was extremely proud of our guys on Saturday. We put Tebow down as many time as he has been down all year. We tackled well, no 52 yard runs after being hit by four defenders in the backfield. With the exception of the 77 yard pass play, our guys looked good.

    Alex, just keep kicking bro, it will go through. bad days happen to all of us.

    Go Hogs! Kick the crap out of ole miss and nutts.

  2. boo hoo the refs cheated / Oct 19 2009

    I guess the officials made Arkansas miss the go ahead field goal too.

    Some fans are just stupid.

    UF doubled the first down total of Arkansas and out rushed and out passed them.
    All of that with 4 turnovers and yet some fans what to cry that the officials took the game from Arkansas.

    Grow up

    • roger stafford / Oct 20 2009

      You out gained Arkansas by a whopping 34 yards. Not what i would call dominating by the “#1″ team in the nation. Weren’t ya’ll 25 point favorites? First downs really means nothing especially when time of possession is almost the same, so that argument is lame also.

      No, officiating did not make us miss field goals or drop touchdown passes, but hard hits and strong, in your face all day defense did force turnovers. so quit acting like florida was just running out there and laying the ball on the ground for Arkansas to recover.

      The calls at the end of the game changed the outcome and anyone who isn’t a florida fan knows that. Heck, ya’ll know it too but your florida fans and you would never admit it. What if the SEC decides that it likes Bama over florida for the SEC championship (if it even gets played. There is talk of no championship game if florida and Bama are still undefeated, so they can play in the BCS National Championship game against each other. Huum, thats a good reason to keep florida undefeated, isn’t it?)

      If the tables had been turned and florida had been the ones screwed, you would be hot too and you would have good reason to be hot.

    • Jim Stewart / Oct 20 2009

      Of course you would say boo-ho!! Your powerful forida gators almost got their ass beat by a lower tier SEC team! Can’t wait to watch Alabama kick Florida’s ass by 2 touchdowns. We’ll see who’s boo-hoing then! haha

    • HogfAN1 / Oct 21 2009

      You just cant stand it that you won by the refs cheating, that you didnt win the game fair and square. Your the cry baby boy…..waaa….waaa….lol……your champion gators arent all that. we should have won that game by 14 points. So why dont you shut your mouth and go away

  3. Chan_8 / Oct 19 2009

    As my football coach once said, “Control the controllable. Play well enough to where the refs don’t have the chance to take it out of your hands.”

    Bad calls are everywhere in every game! And yes, they can cost team’s a win, but it’s part of football!

  4. Sean / Oct 19 2009

    Actually..Refs can be punished for their mistakes by missing post season games (i.e. championships and bowls and such).

  5. KENNY / Oct 19 2009

    People, The SEC will do nothing and say nothing about this because they need two teams competing to go to the SEC championship game. This is about nothing but money and I would guess that these officials were told to do what they could because I have never seen a game with so many blatant calls against one team.

  6. Dave / Oct 20 2009

    With all that is going on in major sports today at what point can we call foul on the refs after 2 games of wrong calls? Is it so far fetched to believe that there was some outside of the game foul play going on? The sad part is, is that it doesn’t matter, even after the SEC admitted they were bad calls Arkansas still lost and nothing can be done about it. Sad. I have read blogs from Florida fans that say they don’t know what happened. How is an Arkansas fan supposed to reconcile them-self to this, especially after LSU won the National Championship after we beat them. Is Arkansas destined to be doomed in SEC “football”.

  7. drew cassinelli / Oct 20 2009

    Again the “Barney Frank defense” . By calling the people dumbass and saying it is the yellow line the most “intelligent” lady who cannot tell the difference in yard markers and yellow lines tries to demean the messenger to kill the message.
    Now who is the dumbass??

  8. DLinOrlando / Oct 20 2009

    I have to say this also about the picture of Cooper. That picture is obviously taken (IMHO) after the ball bounced back out. It is not the ball arriving, it is leaving after the play. Look at Coop’s eyes and you can see he was still looking at where the ball WAS.

    That is all. You all have a great remainder of your season, you should have no problem with Meatchicken. Over and out!

    • roger stafford / Oct 20 2009

      If you watch the video, Cooper interfered just as he should have to keep the ball from being intercepted. It was a great play by Cooper, but was most definitely OPI. The joke is that it was not called after the “phantom” PI on Arkansas on the previous florida possession and TD drive.

  9. Solidgator / Oct 20 2009

    Instead of you all spending all your time putting together freeze frames and Youtube videos about how the refs lost the game for your team, I would be concentrating more on your game coming up this weekend. How stupid will you all look if you lose to Ole Miss. Will you still be on here complaining about the refs or will you shut up and realize that you all just got beat by a Gator team that is better than you.

    • Jacob / Oct 20 2009

      I’m not playing the game. Hopefully the players aren’t putting together videos though.

      Of course, I have moved on. See latest Houston Nutt post.

    • bkbe4dk / Oct 20 2009

      Hey Gator fans F… U !!! YOU were beaten by a better team and lost control of # 1 position. The refs Do make an outcome possible in that situation !! YOU are NOT that good and will be beaten again. WE beat you , the refs won the game FOR you!!! Nuff said !!

    • Jim Stewart / Oct 20 2009

      Yea, the scoreboard did say we lost! And thats unfortunate. But my question to all gator fans is this, How did it feel to see your powerful Number 1 gators and your precious Tim Tebow played to within a field goal by a 3 and 2 team? And at the swamp on top of that! I bet that hurt. Bet it made you all realize that your dream of another national championship is just that, a dream. Didn’t you drop from Number 1 to Number 2 after the game? Hmmmm, wonder what caused that?

    • rabbit / Oct 21 2009

      If Florida was such a better team then why did they need the refs to help them win and also why in the world was the score so close.

    • Patrick / Oct 21 2009

      about as stupid as you dod last year I imagine, oh except its expected to be a good game at their field, not a blow out at your like it was last year so tell me again how stupdi were you last year when you lost? Oh thats right you just got beat by an Ole mIss team that was better than you.

  10. David / Oct 20 2009

    YOU LOST!!!! deal with it

  11. Brett / Oct 20 2009

    Just wanted to say that it is bullshit that the refs screw us like that but the fact of the matter is that we still need a field goal kicker because tejada has proven that he can not get it done and we should have beat them by 21 but we didnt because we didnt score points off their turnovers and that is what wins games. you all are all right about the refs, it did seem like they were trying to help florida win the game and not cause a major upset, and they should do something about it but we have to move on because we have houston nutt and the rebels this week and i am predicting we beat them by 21.

  12. Bryan / Oct 20 2009

    We had some bad plays (missed passes and FGs) that, if done right, would have given us some padding. Florida had some bad plays (4 lost fumbles, ouch) that, if done right, would have given them some padding. The good plays and bad plays are part of the game. It’s the bad calls that are most painful. I don’t like getting calls in our favor that we don’t deserve and I obviously don’t like get calls that work against us that cost us any chance of winning. We were helping FL stay in the game with our spotty offensive performance and FL was helping us beat them with theirs. It took the refs to sway the game back to FL’s favor with bogus calls/no calls and that should never happen.

    • Jacob / Oct 20 2009

      Agree 100%

  13. NATIVEGATOR / Oct 20 2009

    Lets put this to sleep after this please.Been a gator for 39 years and its the only time in the history of my life that I didnt cheer for a touchdown.I told my son Thomas who is 17 that dude, ARKY just got robbed.The endzone call was just perfect tight defence, and the block was well just a hell of a pancake block while the play was still going.Id rather win it fair or lose it fair.And I did definately feel bad for your team after that because if those calls were against us Id still be boiling.And any gator who says different is just not a real fan of college football.

    • rabbit / Oct 21 2009

      Agree. It takes a big person to admit that.

  14. whiskeychainsaw / Oct 20 2009

    Found this thread from somewhere on the interwebs. This is gonna get long, and I apologize in advance.

    I’m a UW/Seahawk fan. To say I dislike the officials would be an understatement, and anyone that doesn’t think officials can negatively affect the outcome of the game is watching the game through black and gold (stealers) or blue and orange (Gator), or blue and white glasses (duke).

    Officials make calls, bad ones, that too often benefit the superior team. This then upsets fans of the underdog, who realistically just want an even shot in a fairly officiated game. Meanwhile, people say things like “your team didn’t overcome it.” No. They didn’t.

    Strangely, they rarely do, because they have to overcome far more than do the other team. It’s easy to say, “Well, your team didn’t go out and overcome the calls” when your own team didn’t have to contend with crappy officiating. And while it is noble to accept that bad calls occur and human beings make mistakes, it isn’t okay in my book to just “bend over and take it.”

    Maybe you saw the UW/ND game where somehow our TD got not only overturned (when did “conclusive” become “hmm, I think this might be right?”) but moved back half a yard. Simply amazing. Reminds me of the Tebow spot here, only in reverse. We got a yard plus (and a TD) TAKEN AWAY in replay.

    At ND of all places. I know, shocking. Bad calls like this so rarely happen against a better, more popular team, particularly on their home field.

    Yes, the Huskies could/should have scored on the other 10 plays or so from inside the five. But we didn’t. And I blame the officials as much as the poor play calling. Because, well, we did score. And it got taken back somehow.

    How does this tie in? Because I felt like the ‘Backs were getting the same snow job I’ve gotten so used to as a PNW fan. In the 4th quarter when the pressure is highest on players and officials, it almost always gets worse, not better. I have my suspicions as to why, and it doesn’t have to do with conspiracy, but human nature.

    First I saw first a bad PI call. Fine, that one can be chalked up to the officials make occasional mistakes, and it is a tough call to make. But, if you are going to make it (or not) at least be… oh, I don’t know, CONSISTENT.

    But to follow that up immediately with a phantom personal foul? SEE IT. Don’t simply anticipate. SEE IT, men in stripes!

    Conveniently for fans of juggernauts, when the officials “anticipate” they always do so in a way that favors the “superior” team. Why? Because they believe the powerhouse team to be just that, superior, so when events happen that displace that (unintentional, even) bias the refs react by anticipating that something illegal must have happened to challenge their assumptions. And this is extremely acute in bigger games, later in those games.

    Tebow underthrows a WR? NEVER. Must be PI. A Florida lineman gets knocked on his ass? Must have been a cheapshot. Tebow underthrows a receiver (again)? Didn’t happen, and neither did a blatant offensive PI to stop the INT.

    Bottom line, I was pretty neutral watching this game. I honestly think your coach is a douche, and left two programs in bad shape before landing with you. And I equate Tebow Love with Favre/Brady love. Just disgusting, and why announcers should go back and watch/listen to tapes from the 60’s/70’s and stop the verbal diarrhea. Despite all this, I am a fan of college football, and a fan of great college games. This game was some poor officiating away from being an all-time ESPN Classic worthy gem. As it is, the result means it is just another game that makes fans like you and me hate the system, and makes fans from places like Florida think they were born to win.

    I was damn frustrated at the poor calls all going Florida’s way.

    Surprised? No, not really. Sadly, I’ve gotten used to it.

  15. Socraticsilence / Oct 20 2009

    Look even as a Florida fan I can admit the PF foul was crap (I don’t feel that it would have effected the game- it gave the Gators 10 yards on a 1st down play, considering Demps went untouched the very next play I don’t see how it would have mattered where he ran it from) but some of the other calls are just the sorts of things that happen- PI will always go to the offensive player over the defender, always regardless of what team and/or player commits said infraction, additionally, both teams got some calls I mean Arkansas clearly held on the long TD pass (check out what happens to #49 on Florida), but again those kinds of calls happen. Finally, the “mystery yard” was the result of a bad spot, but would have been a first down either way- the CBS line was way, way off: http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1153/dsc03313149795.jpg Florida only had to get to the 19 not the 18 for a first down.

  16. David / Oct 20 2009

    OMG GET OVER IT!!! I’ve never seen so many posts from whining, complaining crybabys who blame everyone else except the team and the coach. Did the refs help UF beat LSU at home and hold them to 3 points??? NO. Arkansas just could not get the ball in the end zone when it counted. Did you guys play a great game? YES Did you guys have us Gators worried? YES. You played a great game against the best team in the nation. Pat yourselves on the back

    • jackson / Oct 21 2009

      What are you going to do if we don’t stop complaining that SEC refs are making it easier for #1 Ranked FL to sweep the SEC and make it to another title?
      You gonna sick St. Tebow on us? That would make quite the Prayer Circle wouldn’t it? No, it wouldn’t because people make decisions that determine the outcome of games. Players do and so do refs and the refs blatantly overlooked a couple of plays. FL didn’t beat AR. AR beat themselves because they missed 2 field goals. They stomped beloved St Tebows ass and I hope that fucker gets his ass knocked out again.

    • C Cook / Oct 21 2009

      In the interests of full disclosure, YES, I am a Razorback fan – as I’ve spent most of my life in AR. I do own property in Florida too and have been a Gators fan for a number of years and happily cheer them to victory any time they are not playing the Hogs! I’m a huge fan of Tim Tebow and think he may be the most complete college player of our time.

      Personally, I think Florida would have driven the field and scored the tying TD with or without the PI or PF call. I don’t have any doubt that they are the best team in football. Both of those calls were bad though. If Florida had to actually earn the length of the field, they don’t have time to make the winning FG, so the outcome of the game is potentially changed. A shootout in overtime would have been an extremely exciting finish.

      Beyond that, many people will say Florida only won because of the calls. We’ll never know. I think it’s already cost the Gators some votes. I also think the players would have preferred to have won it on the field. But a win’s a win – and if they go on to take another national crown, they will have earned that. Still a lot of games to be played.

  17. Michael / Oct 20 2009

    The SEC has two teams (Alabama and Florida) ranked #1 and #2, and along with that comes alot of coverage locally as well as nationally. These two teams are headed for a showdown in early December and the SEC wants very badly to have both teams show up with no loses. They are going to make a boat load of money with everyone from the east coast to the west coast keeping up with those two teams for the rest of this year. The powers to be in the SEC aren’t going to let a team like Arkansas derail their gravy train. The ref’s were only doing as they were told “throw those flags” and “for Gods sake don’t let anything happen to Timmy!”

  18. blu3tick / Oct 21 2009

    To solid gator – IF we just sit idle and not defend our team and try to hold these officials accountable then things like this will surely happend again in the future… Hopefully we can prevent the gator’s from one day getting Hosed… If that ever happens I hope you use your own preachings and move on swiftly…

  19. AU-TigerFan / Oct 21 2009

    Ever wonder why Pat Dye (during his time at Auburn) said that if you were playing bama and needed 2 yards for a first down, you better get 4 yards or you don’t get the first down. Ever wonder why one of the few ‘judgment’ calls to ever be reversed was in the 07 bama/Ole Miss game, and if just happened to stop an Ole Miss drive that could have tied the ball game, late in the fourth quarter. Ever wonder why AJ Greene can get a celebration penalty for scoring a touchdown, giving LSU a short field to win the game, and Tim Tebow can pretty much do anything he wants as far as celebration and the referees just don’t seem to notice it. Ever wonder how Rolando McClain can get away with bumping a referee after he was called for a penalty, and according to NCAA and SEC rules, if a player bumps a referee, it’s an automatic ejection, but the SEC office basically apologized to McClain and bama for actually calling a 15 yard penalty on McClain and he stayed in the game. Arkansas was screwed, pure and simple. Florida fans can call it what they want, but two or three calls made sure Florida was given the chance to win the game.

  20. Sean / Oct 21 2009

    Those official have been suspended!

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